Problems installing squeeze netinstall

William Hopkins's picture

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On 05/27/11 at 11:45am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear list -
>
> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
>
> Comments and advice, please.
Define 'hangs'. A system hang? Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a terminal for troubleshooting?

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

Rob Owens's picture

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear list -
>
> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
>
I think your previous message said something about a missing Packages.gz
file. You might want to look at this page:
http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329ahttp://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329a

Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1

-Rob

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

Ethan Rosenberg's picture

At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
>On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > Dear list -
> >
> > It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> > "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> > CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> > which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> > burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> > matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> > changing the mirrors, to no avail.
> >
>I think your previous message said something about a missing Packages.gz
>file. You might want to look at this page:
>http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329ahttp://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329a
>
>Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1
>
>-Rob
>
>
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Thanks to all

Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a terminal
for troubleshooting? >>> Yes, but it is just scrolling and I cannot read it.

Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1 >>> I am using that version.

Advice and comments please.

Ethan

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

Ethan Rosenberg's picture

At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
>On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
> > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > >> Dear list -
> > >>
> > >> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> > >> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> > >> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> > >> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> > >> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> > >> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> > >> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
> >
> > Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
> > terminal for troubleshooting? >>> Yes, but it is just scrolling and
> > I cannot read it.
>
>F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
>cannot read it to see what is happening.
>Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
>troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
>what is going on.
>
>
>--
>Liam

++++++++
Liam -

If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode. I did
that and updated [apt-get update && apt-get autoclean && apt-get
dist-upgrade && apt-get autoremove]. When I boot, the system freezes
at [ 8.824009] [] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb

Help and advice, please.

Ethan

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

William Hopkins's picture

On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
> >On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> >> At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
> >> >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> >> >> Dear list -
> >> >>
> >> >> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> >> >> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> >> >> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> >> >> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> >> >> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> >> >> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> >> >> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
> >>
> >> Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
> >> terminal for troubleshooting? >>> Yes, but it is just scrolling and
> >> I cannot read it.
> >
> >F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
> >cannot read it to see what is happening.
> >Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
> >troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
> >what is going on.

> If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode. I did
> that and updated [apt-get update && apt-get autoclean && apt-get
> dist-upgrade && apt-get autoremove]. When I boot, the system
> freezes at [ 8.824009] [] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb

I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong and some lister will reply.
If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should never do, as this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a list of files), then you've already completed installing the base system, right?
Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

Whit Hansell's picture

On 05/29/2011 12:21 PM, William Hopkins wrote:
> On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
>> At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
>>> On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
>>>> At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Dear list -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
>>>>>> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
>>>>>> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
>>>>>> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
>>>>>> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
>>>>>> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
>>>>>> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
>>>> Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
>>>> terminal for troubleshooting?>>> Yes, but it is just scrolling and
>>>> I cannot read it.
>>> F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
>>> cannot read it to see what is happening.
>>> Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
>>> troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
>>> what is going on.
>> If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode. I did
>> that and updated [apt-get update&& apt-get autoclean&& apt-get
>> dist-upgrade&& apt-get autoremove]. When I boot, the system
>> freezes at [ 8.824009] [] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb
> I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong and some lister will reply.
> If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should never do, as this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a list of files), then you've already completed installing the base system, right?
> Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
> What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?
>
I had this problem back in March installing Wheezy w. the netinst.
iso. Re-burned it a couple of times and finally said (expletive
deleted), downloaded the business card iso and all went well from
there. I have had nothing but problems trying to install downloaded
iso's when they are of any size as it seems my CD/DVD drive[s] seem to
not like reading compressed .iso info for some reason. I have even had
to do the burn at only 2X speed to get them to write correctly. HTH's.

Cheers,
Whit

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

Ethan Rosenberg's picture

At 12:21 PM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
>On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
> > >On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > >> At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
> > >> >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> > >> >> Dear list -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
> > >> >> "Difficulties installing squeeze"], so I moved on the netinst. The
> > >> >> CD runs perfectly until it gets to "Select and Install Software", at
> > >> >> which point it hangs. As far as I can tell, the CD is fine. It was
> > >> >> burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
> > >> >> matched and the CD was verified after burning. I have tried
> > >> >> changing the mirrors, to no avail.
> > >>
> > >> Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
> > >> terminal for troubleshooting? >>> Yes, but it is just scrolling and
> > >> I cannot read it.
> > >
> > >F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
> > >cannot read it to see what is happening.
> > >Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
> > >troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
> > >what is going on.
>
> > If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode. I did
> > that and updated [apt-get update && apt-get autoclean && apt-get
> > dist-upgrade && apt-get autoremove]. When I boot, the system
> > freezes at [ 8.824009] [] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb
>
>I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong
>and some lister will reply.
>If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should
>never do, as this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a
>list of files), then you've already completed installing the base
>system, right?
>Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
>What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?
>
>
>--
>Liam
>
+++++++
From active terminal:
Waarning: Untrusted versions of the following software will be installed!
Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
this is what you want to do

in-target: dhcp3-client dhcp3-common linux-image-2.6.26.-1-686
in-target: Clinux-image-2.6.26.-2-686 tzdata
in-target: do you want to ignorre this warning and proceed anyway?
To contiue enter "Yes"; to abour enter "No":
Yes [no response to this reply]

output from ps -ef:
31637 root 1672s udpkg --configure --force-configure pkgsel
31638 root 1808 S /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgsel.postinst configure
31659 root 1808 S /bin/sh /bin/in-target sh -c debconf-apt-progress --f
31686 root 1668 S log-output -t in-target chroot /target sh -c debconf-
31687 root 10212 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/defconf/frontend /usr/bin
31689 root 6416 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress --from
31690 root 50824 S aptitude -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o
31694 root 1812 R ps -ef

{the above text would not have been possible if not for my wife
reading it from the monitor!}

Ethan

Problems installing squeeze netinstall

William Hopkins's picture

On 05/29/11 at 02:31pm, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> At 12:21 PM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
> >Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
> >What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?
> >
> +++++++
> From active terminal:
> Waarning: Untrusted versions of the following software will be installed!
> Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security
> You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain
> that this is what you want to do
>
> in-target: dhcp3-client dhcp3-common linux-image-2.6.26.-1-686
> in-target: Clinux-image-2.6.26.-2-686 tzdata
> in-target: do you want to ignorre this warning and proceed anyway?
> To contiue enter "Yes"; to abour enter "No":
> Yes [no response to this reply]

Interesting, something has gone wrong with your security keys. Possible reasons:

outdated CD (keys no longer valid)
corrupt CD (keys unreadable)
time issues
bad mirror
man-in-the-middle attack/repo poisoning (extremely unlikely)

You can try another CD (possibly downloaded&burned from a different machine than you used last time). Or you can use the 'advanced' option of the installer, and simply skip the software installation part. This *should* give you a working install without anything but the base OS. Then you can update your sources.list and install manually.

> output from ps -ef:
> 31637 root 1672s udpkg --configure --force-configure pkgsel
> 31638 root 1808 S /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgsel.postinst configure
> 31659 root 1808 S /bin/sh /bin/in-target sh -c debconf-apt-progress --f
> 31686 root 1668 S log-output -t in-target chroot /target sh -c debconf-
> 31687 root 10212 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/defconf/frontend /usr/bin
> 31689 root 6416 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress --from
> 31690 root 50824 S aptitude -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o
> 31694 root 1812 R ps -ef

Looks normal. Clearly the issue is related to the key error you receive above.